All superlatives? But now we understand we can’t make large-scale change without building solidarity within the investing world. One idea I put out that seems to have gotten particular traction is that there is no need to have English variant notices (e.g. Most people know the country was built on slave labor, but they don’t know that literally the first time there was something that might be considered a mortgage, the first bond market, it was on the sale of human beings. --. Revert stupid friggen MonkBot making stylistic changes to thousands of articles on a "consensus" of like 3 people, and block it from making further edits" edit, Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-watchlist, minor edits by less-experienced editors that are the most current version of the page, Wikipedia:User pages#Ownership and editing of user pages, Wikipedia talk:List of Wikipedians by number of edits, Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of FA nominations, Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#Caveat lector, Wikipedia:Edit count#"Quality, not quantity", Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits/5001–10000, Wikipedia:List of Wikipedians by number of edits#List of Wikipedians by number of edits, Carl Marzani#Published by Marzani & Munsell, Help talk:Citation Style 1#Cite book display: contributors/contribution should FOLLOW author/title, not precede them. And yet we come from a different place that many people in our industry do. Robasciotti: I feel more hopeful than I’ve ever been about the possibilities for racial justice in this country. This proposal arises from an ongoing discussion at the idea lab about how to reduce the clutter of excessive talk page banners, a phenomenon that leads to banner blindness, overwhelming and confusing new editors and reducing the visibility of the more important notices. When we took a look at racial justice, how our country was formed and how we continue to build wealth, when we decided to publish our Racial Justice Exclusion list, that is the entire portion of our portfolio. That is the very definition of lunacy. Anonymous. --, Never mind abuse, consider how hard it would be to identify the correct title so you could do things like basic linking of the page. Money is power, and there is a need to not change the power structure. Thus, I would oppose doing away with the tag. It shouldn't be technically difficult to implement; it could be part of the script which adds articles to and removes them from the Main Page. Options for format (using they/them as an example): theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (they/them) 23:35, 1 March 2021 (UTC), I simply propose bringing back the GA Cup, which was abandoned a few years ago, to reduce GA nomination backlog. She describes the company, established after she had spent five years in the financial services industry, as a “a bridge between financial markets and social justice activism”: a place where the principals are deeply committed to helping clients to do well by doing good, in ways that go beyond the usual lip service to sustainability investing. There's an editnotice already? Evaluate this statement with reference to two areas of knowledge. Let's delete it. "Deprecation" involves communication as a first step; removal is a second, later step. My lord, there was no such stuff in my thoughts. In Option C, there is no point in suggesting that "the deprecated parameter list will need to be updated to remove the non-hyphenated parameters"; there are no instances of those deprecated parameters left in the affected namespaces, so support for them will be removed shortly, just as support has been removed for dozens of unhyphenated multi-word parameters already. Thanks. Consider a case in which punishing an innocent person would have good consequences. Lack of neutrality as an excuse to delete The NPOV policy is used sometimes as an excuse to delete texts that are perceived as biased. Excluding hidden cats of course, these aren't a problem; but no depreciation of any parameter justifies such mainspace disruption for readers. During that last discussion, I suggested that TFA might be WP:Pending changes-protected for only so long as it is on the Main Page; and this idea seems to be new. In my experience as a trainer and long-time user, having multiple ways to achieve the same ends allows editors to spend their time and energy working on content rather than puzzling over making sure that the template parameters are named in exactly the right way. Make sure you change this to Public (in the resx designer there is a dropdown at the top for the access modifier) There is simply the rose; it is perfect in every moment of its existence. Perhaps, in certain cases, we could have a system for displaying the "technical title" in a less prominent alongside the "display title"? ... and no adult is going to have a neutral reaction to this doll. If a user makes a non-constructive change to your userspace, it's easy enough to revert - and they can be blocked for vandalism. We used to deal with overt instances, of open systemic racism. Our clients have primarily been women and people of color and LBGTQ people…people with similar values. Since I have been pinged, neutral all round. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. It’s also been put in place not to talk about whiteness. Furthermore, the 2014 RFC, A perfectly cromulent use case is by a bot that has to make a non-content clean up to user talk pages, by declaring the edit minor and leveraging their, Small corrections to comments (e.g. The command term in the prescribed title is neutral question. If you're bothered about it "clogging up" your watchlist, then please set the options recommended by Jonesey95 and others. Parameters that contain only a single word or acronym do not need a hyphen. I saw absolutely no discussion of the removal of the freetext editors field on the talk page. As I said, if you have nothing to contribute but smears and attacks and divisiveness, move on. But at least it’s a good idea, which is more than we can say for an awful lot of competing products. Robasciotti: That is what we’re saying. Its nature is satisfied and it satisfies nature in all moments alike. That particular case seems highly unusual as the editor is apparently using an iOS app that does not receive notifications, and hence is not responding to feedback. Narky Blert (talk) 10:36, 2 February 2021 (UTC), Should we delete succession box content such as the following? Thank you.--Dmitry Rozhkov (talk) 00:10, 7 March 2021 (UTC), An example might be https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar would have a link to https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Parphorus_jaguar, and https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaguar. I suppose access-date is slightly harder to type - but editors editing wikitext manually would probably not mind. I also like the idea of removing them altogether. There’s no such thing. I grew up in a segregated community in a rural part of Northern California. The entry of concern displays as. The dissent misrepresents my position: I draw no such equation. There Is No Such Thing. I haven't seen reports of problems with WP:DYK articles. Mind you, I'll probably be 90 years old and beyond caring. If you want to know what processor the system has, you can start by calling Get­Native­System­Info to determine the architecture, and then you can call the Is­Processor­Feature­Present function to see which features are supported by the current processor. Pedantry: "Non-hyphenated parameters" should read "Non-hyphenated multi-word parameters" in all three options. We’ve built the strategy and the investment case for this kind of inclusionary investment and we’ll be sharing it with the public in a couple of weeks. POST is to do something in a way that is not safe to repeat, execute speculatively, or cache. Literally, Wall Street was built by slaves. In the following years there have been various trends and discussions formally deprecating many of the non-hyphenated parameters, from a small handful (2019 example) to the current list which contains over 70 entries. What are they redundant to? But I do think that our answers are going to have to come from more representation in things like the indexes and listening to people who are most impacted by the problems. Option B, as written on this page, is a garbled mess, not only because of the "status quo" mention, but also because of the "Deprecation can be bundled into genfixes..." bit. Their great-grandchildren are still operating under those systems. My intention with "removal" was to refer only to removal of. Secondarily, the scare quotes are not indicated by this discussion, nor any prior discussion that I can see, whatsoever. What will it be? ... Big tech platforms pretend they are neutral ground when they are the utter opposite. For some recent examples, see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1057#The Holocaust in Slovakia—TFA subject to ongoing vandalism (27 January 2021), Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1057#Guadeloupe amazon—Today's TFA subject to ongoing vandalism (28 January 2021), Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive1057#Pyramid of Nyuserre —Today's TFA subject to persistent vandalism (30 January 2021) and WP:ANI#Hitler's prophecy—TFA undergoing ongoing vandalism (30 January 2021). Consider the abuse possible with arbitrary titles. It is not the place to re-litigate the various discussions about Monkbot 18's task; Option B is provided for those who feel the task should not proceed. However, I'm not sure if this is a function of the notice on the talk page, but on the visual editor on some articles there's a little prompt right under the title (eg. MarketWatch spoke with Robasciotti for some deeper insights into why racial justice is an integral part of the subject of money, and what investors should think about when they try to deploy their funds mindfully. I'm ok with soft-deprecation - allowing both but discouraging/converting one, in bulk once via bot, then gradually/passively via. Answer Save. Example: neutral would be without emotion, opinion. Protecting/unprotecting pages (automatically marked minor). If this is adopted, how would it be implemented relative to existing editnotices that already incorporate English variety? At the very least, the banners should be reduced and have the flags or other images removed. Before a leaf-bud has burst, its whole life acts; in the fullblown flower there is no more; in the leafless root there is no less. Although I sympathize with the desire for all templates to align with one standard (from a user's perspective, I would personally find it easier), I just don't think it's feasible at this point in time. So we started creating portfolios that directly impacted the systemic inequities that public markets create. Some other editors seem to like the idea, and it was suggested that I open a discussion here. All it means is a few extra bytes of storage, and no extra code if it is done properly. In the case of receiving barn stars, it should surely make one feel affirmed. The 24-year-old, who features on the latest cover of Vanity Fair‘s annual Hollywood Issue, made the change when asked about what qualities she likes “most in a man” as part of its accompanying video series The Proust Questionnaire. This sounds like a good idea, and if it could be done by bots, it might not prove too difficult to do. Key terms in title. I feel like the country has finally faced its legacy. IPs and unconfirmed editors would be able to post, even if their contributions didn't display immediately; and vandalism could be speedily dispatched where it belongs. Just a simple one line hat note saying something like “This article uses UK spelling and grammar” at the top of the page would be enough. No-one seems to have mentioned this solution. I discovered that there is an ETF I think I have used that edit notice. (8 March - 8 May, all IPs from Russia, WPs only, 1 banner impression per week). . To whom is standardization for template parameters important & useful? Once it's done, that's it – no more bots making this sort of change. Yes, sort of? Control the virus! They let us know that the system that investors were funding actually detract from the goals of their movement: prison involvement, money bail, surveillance, and immigrant detention, among others. https://species.wikimedia.org/wiki/Parphorus_jaguar, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)&oldid=1011033926, Non-talk pages with subpages that are automatically signed, Pages automatically checked for incorrect links, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, Check to see whether your proposal is already described at, Discussions or proposals which warrant the. It helps challenge the narrative that racial justice has nothing to do with finance. There is no such thing as “hate speech”, at least not in a constitutional sense. (Replace as needed on the article proper.) RfC: What to do with category links to Commons? I propose to extend this ranking to the topbest 20,000 Wikipedians by number of edits, instead 10,000. This meant, for example, that |access-date= would be shown as the preferred parameter while |accessdate= was shown as acceptable but discouraged from use. So, how can we take the NPOV policy seriously? Because the CS1 code never sees the deprecated parameter, should this template emit a red error itself during the substitution? get significant pushback when creating error messages is simply a demonstration that the wider community does not agree with what "we" have decided. Okay, but back to the original question. Obviously we can predict the "very active" and "not likely to be edited much" buckets, but there'd be a large middle category that is tough to order. ARTICLE SUMMARY. The first time I laid eyes on Brookings Hall evoked a certain feeling that can scarcely be replicated. “ Often the vandals attempt to hide their vandalism behind a “minor edit” tag. In order to avoid that pushback, the bot was acting to fix 90+% of the non-standard parameters before turning on the error messages, but that work has been stopped as well. “ Base is 13" high x 9" wide. There is a continuing discussion about facial recognition which we haven’t committed to yet. Mill answers the latter in the negative. If I have a complex question, ... Because using Google was such a habit, I’d find myself going there occasionally. MarketWatch: Have the events of 2020 changed anything about your client behavior? Since the provably skewed google search results during the 2016 Presidential run, I have spent many hours studying how far politicking had corrupted search engine results. When we were building the Racial Justice Exclusion List list to share with the public, we were following the lead of organizations that are embedded in impacted communities, specifically the Black community, but others as well, like the Movement for Black Lives, Poor People’s Campaign, Color of Change, and Race Forward. Please also note that this bot finishes the job. The second would be to actually change the variety. DS notices that create blockable offenses), and the more editnotices we add the more banner blindness we get. Talk page notices are already ignored; let's not consign editnotices to the same fate. I had the feeling that many !voting here saw "removal" as meaning elimination of usages, but maybe that's due to my own confusion. Whenever an investment manger publishes their exclusion list, they are giving away their intellectual property. --Olle Terenius (UU) (talk) 11:17, 16 February 2021 (UTC), In my opinion it would be better to allow the edits of the user page and its sub-pages only to the "page owner" For example, if user X creates his page, only he will be able to edit it --Dr Salvus (talk) 15:15, 25 February 2021 (UTC), Hi! But the idea is to only insert the notice if it really needs to be noticed, ie there is a chronic problem with numerous edits on the page. You can read a bit more about my proposal here. The key argument (for me at any rate) is that the last thing we want to do is discourage new editors. There is no doubt that temperatures have warmed. Likely a lot of people recognize things like for-profit prisons as problematic, but other issues might not be quite as familiar. This idea has both carrot and stick. Just for ease of use, I think we should have an, Pretty much what Wugapodes said. A TFA's godaprents could be encouraged to help the regular pending changes patrollers. Concern (not opposition)... We here at WP.en have become very leery of linking to Wikidata (in any form). Experienced editors know where to look or to ask for help; newbies, by definition, don't. I’m curious if you see things the same way, and if so, why you think it is that racial issues aren’t recognized in the same way. What is meant by the quote "There is no such thing as a neutral map?"? Requiring two edits isn't unreasonable for something that defines how the entire article is written. As long as whiteness, and what was happening in our communities, wasn’t being talked about, as long as those things weren’t in the public conversation, nothing was going to be changed. MarketWatch: I’d like to ask you a little bit about the idea of passive investing. Robasciotti: Our core piece of social justice is racial justice. (For the record - I'm in favour.) We do not need them present in both their canonical place as article tags as well as talk pages. Yeah, not so much. There was a recreational lake in my community that I still have never been to because that was a place Black people weren’t allowed. Christopher Hsing 1/27/15 Period 4 Braman TOK There is no such thing as a neutral question… Convert all English variant notices to editnotices, Pending-changes protection of Today's featured article, RFC: Should certain succession box content, be deleted. Possibly limiting it to autoconfirmed users can be reasonable - I'm pretty sure new users can't make new pages in other peoples' userspace. What are the key words & terms that need pinning down? I'm also not sure how accurate a prediction of a TFA's likely edit rate we can do. Thanks. Zendaya says interview question about men should be ‘gender neutral’ The Oakland actor and singer pushes back against some of the gendered questions in … I don't think this is a good idea for a two main reasons: Not every user wants to reveal this information - especially those are typically targets of online harassment for their gender - and including this in a sign-up form makes the implication that gender revealing is, Pronoun selection is not a simple enumeration; pronoun policies are far more complex than a trinary of he/she/they. What about tallest buildings and longest bridges? TLDR: People who want their pronouns in their signature can do so already, and I do not see any policy based reason they can't go manually add it now. I copy it here, in case it is helpful to anybody: Note that I haven't (yet) tried this myself, since I'm already satisfied with the way my watchlist is set up. There is no such thing as a neutral question. Unless you're dealing with a smartswitch, those take neutrals but there is still a switched hot to account for. Isn't this a problem? Technically, the permission to mark as minor will be limited to rollbackers, admins and bots. Changes are always announced ahead of time and consensus is sought for non-obvious changes (and even obvious changes with non-obvious implementations), so you have no excuse not to tune in at least once every couple months when the regular "Shit is Changing" post gets made. No response to genuine concerns but just an order to "move along". On the third hand, from an implementer's perspective, I appreciate that it adds a lot of noise to template syntax, if not implemented with a Lua module. Robasciotti: I believe very strongly that we can’t have Black people in this country without having white people. I am especially worried that non-cis-gender editors (or those who use other pronouns) will be caught between a rock and a hard place - using their preferred pronouns and the potential harm that could come from that, or using non-preferred pronouns and having to see them often. Are y'all suggesting we bring back all deprecated parameters, and adding more so that every user may choose to use the parameter names that are most comfortable/understandable/intuitive to them? Only on Wikipedia does the citation give top billing to the author of the Foreword. Additionally, those opposed to the bot also expressed concern that the relatively small-scale discussions to deprecate these parameters had not reached a wide enough audience to merit what they felt were sweeping changes. Machine-readability is also a good thing, imo. It is precisely the fact that I use them that leads me to the opinion that obvious synonyms for parameters should not be removed, as proposed here.
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